fall, we are so happy and fortunate to have with us three men who know the general, retired four-star barry mccaffrey, decorated vietnam veteran, and another highly decorated veteran, u.s. army retired, jack jacobs, a recipient of the medal of honor. also returning to our broadcast, the former chief of staff at the cia and pentagon, jeremy bash. so general, you and general kelly were both in the four-star club, that is a very small membership. how did you come to know him? and tell him who is this man? >> i have known him over the years, in seminars with him, and doing interviews. this is one of the finest people i ever met in my life. in terms of integrity, competence, good judgment.